Your Healing Begins Now - Episode 52

Healing Begins Now: Understanding Jesus as Healer and Savior

Justin and Don discuss on the concept that healing begins now, emphasizing that it is not a reserved event for the past or the future but something meant for the present moment: now! They explore the idea that Jesus did not only come to forgive sins but also to heal people, and that this healing is part of God's will for everyone. They counter various beliefs that suggest healing is selective or time-bound and stress that the same unwavering belief required for salvation applies to healing.  The same way we are saved is the same way we are healed. The hosts provide scriptural evidence, personal insights, and encourage listeners to shed doubts and fully trust in the healing power available through faith in Jesus. They conclude with a call to understand the true nature of God's love and will for His creation, inviting listeners to embrace the full package of salvation and healing.

Transcript

Episode 53 – Your Healing Begins Now

Justin: [00:00:00] Hi everyone, this is Justin Olbrantz and this is Don Schaefer, and you are listening to the Wise and the Wandering Podcast. For those who know the way and for those who are led astray. And if you feel like you fall into either of those categories. Then you're in the right place. So let's dive in.

Justin: So Don, what are we going to talk about today? Well, today, Justin, I think we're gonna talk about healing begins now. Healing begins now. Yes. Very rich. So, so it's beginning now at this moment. Yes. 

Don: Yes. And I think that's what Jesus came to show us. 

both: Mm-hmm. And 

Don: a lot of times, you know, people have various reasons.

Don: That they reason the fact that healing isn't for today and it isn't for right now. Mm-hmm. But this is not what Jesus came to do. 

Justin: Yeah. No, not at all. And I [00:01:00] believe that, and I agree with that, and I think that we did an episode. , early on, and it was called Your Healing is Coming. And I think that served its purpose.

Justin: I think that was a good episode. Yeah. Uh, just listening back on it, but I wanted to drive a greater message, is that the point of that episode was to say that the healing is coming. That it's, it's right on the horizon, right? It's there. Yeah. And now. This episode is to show people that healing begins right now.

Justin: Yeah. And some people might have think that it happened, like you were saying, it might have just happened at a certain time period. It might have just happened for certain people at a certain time period. But I don't think that's the case, right? And I think we're gonna make a good case today as to why the former things are not correct and why it actually does begin now.

Justin: So today , we're gonna talk about not only just healing, but we are gonna talk about the one who heals Yes. And why he [00:02:00] heals.

Don: Yes. Yes. And that's so true. And I know, , Jesus came, you know, and we, we've talked about that he came to, uh, free us from our sins.

Don: Mm-hmm. And, , they say take away our sins, but he takes away more than just a sin. He , takes away the repercussions of sin. Yeah. Because sin isn't just sin. It's, it's the attitudes, it's the emotions, it's the fears, it's the anxieties. Mm-hmm. There's a lot of things connected with sin. You're right.

Don: So when Jesus came to be a savior. To free us from our sin. He's freeing us from the full package. But he also came to heal us. 

both: Mm-hmm. 

Don: And he came to heal us with the whole package and he came and did a finished work. Mm-hmm. On the cross. , he did his father's will, the Bible tells us, but yet I see ourselves sometimes really doing him a disservice.

Don: Really, um, how would you say, , rejecting him in some ways or some fashion? Yeah. I mean, if I worked a project and I was sent to do something and I gave my life for it, yeah. And then I find they take this and [00:03:00] turn it in such a way where, what I came to do, they're not doing it. Mm-hmm. I mean, they're, they're not fulfilling.

Don: . Completely reaching out and allowing sin to be removed out of their lives. Mm-hmm. Allowing me to cleanse them, but the healing process. 

both: Yeah. 

Don: You know, I mean, people are feeling that it's gotta be a special season, special reason, special, whatever. Mm-hmm. For this to happen. But Jesus never showed us that, you know, he showed it this healing was meant to be.

Don: Right. And now. Mm-hmm. And it takes believers. The believing process. And I know ourselves, sometimes I question the level of belief that's involved in all this. Mm-hmm. Because, you know, Jesus said, , , according to your beliefs, let it be done unto you. Yes. And a lot of times people struggled with the belief process.

Don: Mm-hmm. And Jesus, you know what really interests me a little bit, Justin, if I can speak this a little bit. Sure. Go. You know the message that Jesus must have had. It must have been powerful. 'cause you know, there we were talking earlier, a little bit about 4,000 Fed, 4,000, and all of them were [00:04:00] healed. 

both: Yeah.

Don: You know, so if, if a belief process is necessary for healing mm-hmm. He must have had 4,000 people sitting there. Eating and believing at the same time. Yeah. You know, for this to happen because Jesus shows us that without belief, having a little bit of doubt in your life. Mm-hmm. It kills the belief process, I mean the healing process in a person.

Don: So, you know, Jesus showed us that, yeah, we have to develop. And really become believers. Mm-hmm. In Jesus and believing in his message. 

Justin: Yeah. And it really comes down to truly believing. I think we've done a few episodes, uh, at this point now that kind of touch on believing and what it really means to believe.

Justin: And I think that it's so important to first understand that though, because this is. The son of man, the son of God we're talking about. Right. And he took ordinary people. He took 12 ordinary people. Yeah. 

Justin: These weren't, these weren't all physicians. These weren't all. People in white coats that were going out and healing people. These [00:05:00] were ordinary people that simply believed in what a teacher was telling them, what he was teaching them. So yes, a lot of the times, , I think to get a full picture of what Jesus was doing, was he a savior? Yes. He was a savior. But he was also a healer. Yes, he was. And. Like you were saying, he healed everybody that he came into contact with. So it's important to first understand that because there's some doctrines or certain teachings I've heard where people have said, well, he didn't heal everybody.

Justin: That's actually incorrect. It says that all that. Came to him, were healed. That word all is pretty specific. Yes, it means all. Yeah. In the Greek it means all as well. All. So that means every single person that came into contact with him and was in need of healing, received healing, right? Yes. Because like you were saying, , he came to take away the sins of the world.

Justin: Mm-hmm. And now some people would argue and say. , some people [00:06:00] would say that the sickness that people get actually stems from sinful ways. So if he takes away the sins, yeah, well then that's a forgiveness of sins, but that also means that you're healed as well because what was causing you to have sickness is no longer present.

Justin: Yeah. So it makes sense then when he tells. The the lame man on the ground in front of the Pharisees, when he tells 'em Your sins are forgiven. Yeah. And they say, who has the power to forgive sins, you know, other than God. And he says, I say this to you to show you that the son of man has the power to forgive sins.

Justin: Right? Is it better for me to say his sins are forgiven or to pick up your mat and walk? And then he tells 'em, pick up your mat and walk. And he is drawing a parallel here to show you that they are the same thing, the forgiveness of sins. Or you're getting healed, right? Yeah. They come from the same place, from the healer.

Justin: So when it comes down to just understanding who Jesus is as a teacher, [00:07:00] as a savior, but as a healer, he's multifaceted in his ministry. Mm-hmm. But it all comes from the same place. Yeah. It all comes from. The kingdom, right?

Justin: That's right. So the kingdom was to come upon people and the reason that people are being healed, and the reason healing begins now as it is said in Mark, is because this is the kingdom of God. Right? And just as the original. Man who was created in the image of God, son, known him as Adam, right? He was creating the image of God.

Justin: God told him at that point, go and be fruitful and multiply. Go have dominion over all of the earth. And then obviously there was a fall there. There was things that happened where they lost the, image that they once had, right? Mm-hmm. But , the agenda was always the same for the kingdom, right?

Justin: God wanted his glory to be multiplied in the earth. Yes. He wanted the people, , he wanted a [00:08:00] physical reproduction of his glory. Yeah. He wanted them to have babies, right? Mm-hmm. And then things got a little messed up. Well, now we have the second Adam, as we've talked about in a couple episodes here, and the second Adam, the kingdom and the agenda is the same.

Justin: Yeah. We the first. The first way it was to come as a physical reproduction. And now we have someone who has been born again and he is now living within us. Mm. The kingdom is now within us, and what that means is now the agenda. From the kingdom from the beginning. It is the same now, and what that means is it is now a reproduction in a spiritual sense.

Justin: That's right. He wants whatever was in this teacher, whatever was in this savior, whatever was in this healer. He wants that to be multiplied spiritually and so that he can have. Glory in all of the Earth. Amen. So we really gotta receive that. We really have to [00:09:00] understand what was it, what was the assignment that Jesus came here?

Justin: Was it just to, was it just to do the work for us or was it for a greater purpose? 

Don: Yeah, that's very good stuff there. Justin. I know for myself, I'm just gonna explain the way I look at things. I believe that, , Jesus was a pure reflection of the father's will. Everything that God wanted to do for mankind.

Don: Was done in Jesus. Mm-hmm. Everything that Jesus spoke was the words of his father. 

background: Yeah. 

Don: Everything about him was God being manifested to mankind. Mm-hmm. So when you read the Bible, everything in red that is written in the Bible is actually the word of God coming to us. Mm-hmm. It talks about in the Bible that Jesus would spend nights and evenings and prayer and fasting to be connected with our heavenly Father.

Don: An example possibly for us, but, uh, you know, but everything that Jesus's, everything Jesus did was his father's will. And also it's [00:10:00] just in looking at the natural father, I mean, what father's care would, would be for the, his children as far as sickness is concerned. I mean, the Bible talks about, you know, if a, you know, a child was to ask for a low piece of bread.

Don: Would the person give him a stone, a father give him a stone? Yeah. Yep. No, he would not, you know, the Bible says he'd give him the Holy Ghost or whatever. Mm-hmm. But you know, our heavenly Father wants good things for us. 

both: Mm-hmm. 

Don: He wants us, well, he wants us complete. He's given us everything we need to have all that.

Don: And it was all manifested in Jesus. And like you were saying, 'cause I know the Bible says that, uh, had the devil known, , what he was doing in crucifying Jesus Christ, he would've never done that because he opened up an opportunity for. , replication inside of us. Mm-hmm. So we can, you know, that's where the Bible says, uh, Christ in you the hope of glory.

Don: Yes. Yeah. You know, everything that God is wanting, he's wanting Jesus to be birthed inside. I know at Christmas time, you know, sometimes I've given messages at [00:11:00] Christmas, I said the gift was the fact. That the same seed that was in Mary, mm-hmm. Could be placed inside of each and every one of us. That Jesus can be birthed inside of us.

Don: And the healing process, everything is meant to be in alive today. And our healing is right now. It's meant to be alive and working in people's lives, but we have to realize the function of Jesus. That was God walking on this earth. Yeah, it was his 'cause. I know you go back into Genesis when Adam Eve first sinned and stuff, they said there would be a seat of a woman that was going to be.

Don: Changing all this. Yeah. So all the repercussions, all the thing effects of sin and, and sickness disease, all this stuff, you know, started from the garden, but then all of a sudden the one seed of a woman that brought into this world, which was Jesus Christ, was supposed to change all. Mm-hmm. This. Mm-hmm.

Don: Yeah. But somehow it's all got muddied down. Yeah. You know, and today people have all their ideas and stuff and therefore our society [00:12:00] struggles. Christianity struggles. 'cause even like it talks about in the Bible that he will baptize you with the Holy Ghost and power. Mm-hmm. You know, there was meant to be power and it was healing power.

Don: And then also, as you had mentioned earlier, uh, about the kingdom. 

background: Yeah. Every 

Don: time Jesus talked about the king, his message was all about the kingdom. Mm-hmm. But it was all about the healing. Healing came with the kingdom. Yeah. And, and then he gave us a prayer that everybody seems to know. It's, it's our father who art in heaven.

Don: Hall be thy name, thy kingdom come. Mm-hmm. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Yeah. So we're actually praying for the kingdom and the will of the father to be on earth. We say this prayer all the time, but with that comes healing. Mm-hmm. With that comes healing. So we are lacking something and that's where I'm praying, you know, we, we talk about this Justin a lot.

both: Yeah. I'm 

Don: praying that we can get. Through all this and get the true message of what Jesus came to do, that we do not let him down. Because I [00:13:00] can't imagine one man going through what Jesus did and us not following what he came to do and allowing it to happen in our 

Justin: lives. Yeah. The last thing that we want is a disappointed father at the end of it.

Justin: Yeah. Like you were saying. So you can, a lot of the times you can understand our Heavenly Father by thinking about him in a, in a parental way. Right? Like you were saying, the the parable is, if the child asks for bread, do you give him a stone? No. You don't give him a stone.

Justin: But how much more does your heavenly Father want to give you? Good gifts is what he says, right? Yeah. So think about the way you feel about your children. Do you want to give them stones when they ask for bread? No. You want to give them gifts, right? You want to make them well, yeah. And the father wants you to be well, Jesus said I only do what is the will of the father.

Justin: Only do what the father tells me is what he said. That means. Anything that he did, he said, I only do what the father tells me. So if he's going around healing every single person who comes in contact with him, [00:14:00] then that tells you it is the father's will for every single person to be healed. That's right.

Justin: Amen. Some people say that. It's the father that actually gives people sickness. Well, that wouldn't make any sense because if the father was actually making people sick, if God was making people sick, then he wouldn't have sent his only son to come here and to heal people, because then he would be going against the direct will of God.

Justin: Right, right, right. So you have to. Understand the truth in these things because it makes it easier to believe. It's harder to find your belief when it's rooted in all of these lies, right? Yeah, that is true. So another thing that we need to do is, I mentioned this kind of briefly before, but , we must look at Jesus as our healer, as well as our savior.

Justin: Yep. Yep. And when I say that, I mean like think about the emphasis that you put on the moment that you were saved by God. Right. Just think about the emphasis that you put on that moment, right? 

background: Yeah. Yeah. 

Justin: But yet the work was [00:15:00] already done and nothing has been added since. Yeah. It happened 2025 years ago.

Justin: Right? Right. The work was already done. Nothing has been had since. So you just simply started believing it. Yes. So there wasn't, there wasn't something. Very special that happened on your part, that moment that you got saved by God. If you think about it, the work was already done. Done on that cross. Mm-hmm.

Justin: Jesus said it is finished, right? Yes. Yes. It means not only is it finished now, but it's finished eternally. Right. Right. Forever it is finished. So the forgiveness of your sins right is not now. It was already done on that cross. Right? Right. The work of healing done is not just done now. It was already done on that cross.

Justin: Amen. It says, by his stripes, you are [00:16:00] healed. Healed. That's right. So in the same way that we do not have to wait for forgiveness of sins, we do not have to wait for healing though. Forgiveness and healing. Were available to us when we were born into this world. We received the forgiveness right when we heard the good news and then believed it.

Justin: Yes. So get this and don't miss it. We will be healed in the same fashion that we believed in Jesus as savior when we were saved. Mm-hmm. So when we believe him as healer, just as we believe him as savior mm-hmm. We will be healed. It is a belief process. Right. So his work is eternal. It is not just finished for a certain period of time, reserved for a certain period of Right.

Justin: For a certain person. Right. Or certain group of people. It is finished eternally. So the Bible says that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, [00:17:00] today, and forever. Amen. Amen. The one, the one who. Was and is. And who is to come, right? That's right. So what that means is that your healing has always been available to you, just like your salvation has always been available to you.

Justin: Mm-hmm. But it wasn't until we did something on our end and we believed it. That's right. We believed it into us. Some people say believe in it. We believed it. Amen. In the same way that we receive forgiveness of sins is the same way that we will receive our 

Don: healing. That's good, Justin. Yeah, I know, um, you mentioned the gospel, you know, which means good news and that's what Jesus did.

Don: He, he spoke the gospel, he shared the good news. I, , say today a lot, that there's a lot of fake news out there because anybody, a little bit. Anybody that talks about healing not for the day healing, that is not something that's supposed to be happening in Christian circles. This is not good news. I mean, to be able to live life [00:18:00] realizing that, uh,, sickness, disease, all this stuff here can happen to us and there's nothing we can do about this.

Don: That there is what? Fake news does, good news says that we can be healed today. And I know, um, a while back I talked a message called, , called out of darkness. Mm-hmm. In the fact that in the beginning it was rich, the disciples, everybody was healed. Yeah. You know, you get into the book of Axi, shadow of Peter.

Don: Yeah. Everybody was being healed. Yeah. You know, they 

Justin: wanted to bring people around. Peter's shadow that is right. 'cause they believed they would be healed. That's, and they were. And they were. If they just encountered his shadow 

Don: Yes. And they were healed and Yeah. And I know, uh, I've talked at a church one time mm-hmm.

Don: That they have all these programs that they try to get people to come to the church and this and that. And I told them, I said, if you got yourself into a place where you understood what healing was all about mm-hmm. If you got into the place where you got. Out of the dark ages and into the light and understanding what Jesus really came to do, that you wouldn't have to go looking for people with programs and stuff, [00:19:00] people would be looking for you.

Don: Mm-hmm. Because people are looking for an answer in life. Mm-hmm. There's a lot of sick and sickness and people that are dealing with sin and this, they're looking for answers. We ourselves are living sometimes in a dark age and we don't understand, and that's where we're doing Jesus really a disservice.

Don: Yeah. You know, and it's interesting, I'm, I'm probably getting offbeat here, but I know I'm, sometimes they talk about crucifying Jesus. You know, back at Calvary. Mm-hmm. You know, I believe a lot of times we crucify what Jesus came to do. Yeah. You know, we put it to death. 'cause Jesus brought life. He brought life in that life much more abundantly.

Don: Mm-hmm. He's wanting us to be. Well the kingdom was preached that way. Everywhere the kingdom was preached, healing was there, you know, numbers and numbers of people that were being healed. Mm-hmm. Every word Jesus went, they believed the message. But what we do a lot of times is when we start talking about, you know,, it's for some people, or maybe next week, not for everybody, you know.

Don: Or, , Jesus, God allowed them to be sick, to [00:20:00] show them something or this and that. The Bible doesn't even talk about this stuff. Mm-hmm. 

both: But 

Don: yet we believe this, you know, and that's where I, I wonder sometimes where people really get into the word, because the word is pretty clear. 

both: Mm-hmm. You 

Don: read the red, you read the Gospels, and you get into the Book of Acts, and you start to see what they did back then.

Don: What changed? What changed and something has watered down the message. Mm-hmm. You know, and today we're living in the results of that watering down and people are suffering. You know, you look at society today, big pharma and all this, and I say to myself, you know, a lot of the stuff shouldn't be needed. It really shouldn't, you know, God should take, Jesus wanted to take care of all of that.

Don: Mm-hmm. I mean, if 4,000 can be fed by Jesus and all of them were healed. Mm-hmm. Can you imagine what he can do in a city? You know, of people that would believe and come and understand what God is really wanting to do, and I think God is trying to lift up individuals like you and I and everyone that's.

Don: Listening, you know, people that are really seeking after God and really [00:21:00] coming to God with this type of understanding, realizing that Jesus is real. He came with a purpose, you know, and help us to get ourselves into the place where he can be formed inside of each and every one of us. So that the same power, that same word, 'cause the words, every time Jesus spoke, something happened.

Don: You know, there was power in his words. Yeah, really things were happening, people were being healed. It was powerful. And that's where. I'm believing, and I know you are too, Justin, that we're gonna be able to see these times. You know, that we are coming to an understanding and realizing that healing is now.

Don: It's not meant for something down the line. It's meant to happen today in each one of our lives. 

Justin: Yeah. And there's just a lot of, uh. Lies that need to be dispelled around healing because I think that, you know, a lot of the times, Don, what this comes down to is we just simply don't believe enough.

background: Yeah. 

Justin: What we're not believing, and a lot of the times we've said this, uh, in a previous episode, but we're living in doubt. . Once you give doubt a [00:22:00] reason, a justification to infiltrate your mind, and especially the doctrines or theology you're going to create doubtful doctrines, and they're not going to produce belief.

Justin: Belief is something that has to be built up. It's not something that just happens overnight. I get it. Sometimes people listening to. Us talk about these things can seem a little off, sometimes a little hard to grasp because it does take a process. Faith is a process like. Paul says, I've fought the good fight.

Justin: I've stayed with the faith. Right? The good fight of the good fight of faith. It is a process. It is an endurance challenge. I get it. But it's built up because we have a helper, we have a counselor, we have. Someone who guides us, we have the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth, right? Amen. So when we are faced in times of confusion, we are faced in times where we don't know where the truth is.

Justin: He's going to lead us right to the truth. Amen. So so what [00:23:00] this comes down to is that we gotta get rid of all the doubt, because those doctrines will stop healing. It'll stop people from getting healed. It'll stop whole cities, like you were saying, from being healed because it is the father's will for everyone to be healed.

Justin: Now, if you have to find another way to explain that, or if you. If you question it, it's okay, but the moment you don't believe that you've fallen into doubt and unbelief. Yeah. And you've not given healing a legal permission to manifest the way that God wants to if you're only creating a doubtful environment.

Justin: If you're only creating a, a unbelieving environments. Right. So it's so important that you don't just walk by what you can see, but that you walk by faith. Right. Not by sight. So in order for, healing. , in order for healing To be manifested, it has to be believed. Yeah. It has to be accepted.

Justin: It has to be agreed upon. Amen. A lot of the times we say at the [00:24:00] end of our prayers, amen. Because we are coming into agreement as a body. That's right. That's right. And in the Bible it says, you shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Yep. And the same Bible says these signs will follow those who believe.

Justin: Amen. It doesn't say these signs will. Follow the fivefold. It doesn't say these signs will follow those in the white coats. It says that these signs will follow believers. Right? Yeah. So we have to look at what we truly believe in and what we have created doubt in that we should be believing in. Right?

Justin: Yeah. For instance, one of the things that I often see is that people say that God has made people sick for a specific reason, that there is a purpose. For them being in sickness. Now, if you have a child, you would never think of. Such a preposterous idea than to make them sick. To teach them a lesson. Yeah.

Justin: Or for, to, [00:25:00] to show them something or to give them sickness for a specific reason. It doesn't sound No, it just doesn't sound logical. And it doesn't sound,, um, humane. Right. It sounds ridiculous, but this is often the way that we're not looking at the heavenly father. Yeah. As a father, right?

Justin: Yep. Yep. And so therefore we, we, we don't look at him with the same love that we'd have for our own children. No. And then the Bible says how much more, right? Right. 'cause he's the heavenly father. How much more does he want to make you not sick? How much more does he want to heal you? Right? That's right. So there's these specific doctrines, , whether it comes down to they're you're sick for a specific reason, or there's another one that I've heard.

Justin: Where you're going to be healed at a certain time. So you're, you're sick for now, but there's a specific time that you're gonna be healed. Well, the Bible directly refutes that because it says that all that came to contact with Jesus were healed immediately. Yeah.

Justin: It says he [00:26:00] immediately healed. All right. That's right. That means right away when they asked for it doesn't mean that he looked at his watch and he said, you know what, I, I think you got enough faith, but just not enough. Maybe come back next Thursday and we'll make sure you get full healing. Right. It, that wasn't the case, right?

Justin: It was. Immediately they were healed. So again, if it's the father's will and Jesus only did the will of the Father, that means that if someone has said that someone is sick and they're supposed to be healed at a specific time, that isn't from God. That's right. That , so and then the third one I want to address just for this episode is because I had a situation where I prayed for somebody, my own mother, she had non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. And then , for some of you that are listening that have followed us, uh, in these podcasts, you know that my mother passed away in February of 2024 and I prayed for my mom.

Justin: I, I put anointing [00:27:00] oil on my mom. And my mom, I wouldn't say was, , fully believing, but I don't think it had anything to do with what happened in her situation. It was unfortunate and it put me through a season of grief, and I've come out better, I would say since then. But oftentimes I see what happens is people will use.

Justin: Experiences that they've had in their life to justify why they shouldn't pray, or why they shouldn't believe in healing for other people. Yeah. Now, going through that situation for the first, , six months, even the first year, I would tell you, I, I didn't think. Hopeful about praying for people, but over time the Lord has shown me things over time, he's revealed things to me over time, some personal things that he's shown me that has helped me explain things a little more and he's shown me things that have helped me understand things a little bit more. And now I do truly have the [00:28:00]belief. That I will one day pray for somebody that will be suffering from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, and I will see them getting fully healed. Amen. Amen. Because that is how much I believe. 

both: Yeah. 

Justin: And that is what Jesus' ministry was.

Justin: That to him hearing me say that, that is worth it. Amen. Because he came here not to just teach, not to just show, but to multiply what he was doing to be fruitful. Right. And multiply we're called to bear fruit and multiply that ministry, that work that he was doing and have dominion over. All of the world, that is the agenda of the kingdom.

Justin: And now the kingdom is within us. So if you, as a believer, if you believe in the kingdom and you want to advance the kingdom, we were told to go cast demons out of people. We were told to cleanse the lepers. We were told to, you know, , free those who are in captivity. Jesus gave specific [00:29:00] instructions.

Justin: So if , we are to disciple people. We are to take those instructions seriously. Yeah. So we don't say that it doesn't apply anymore because he is the same yesterday, today, and forever. That's right. We'll always be. So if we wanna follow his ministry, we must do exactly as he did. Amen. 

Don: Yeah. 'cause Jesus understood the father's heart.

Don: Mm-hmm. And he understood the fact that, that our father loves us. Yeah. We are his creation. And that's where, for those that are out there right now, your healing is now God wants you well and he's wanting to do a good work in your life. And that's where seeking him. And reaching out to him and trying to connect to him in any way, in any fashion.

Don: Hopefully this understanding will give you the opportunity of a breakthrough in your life and all the lives that are around you. God is good. Amen. 

Justin: Well, I think that wraps it up for today. This was a good one, Justin. I [00:30:00] think so too. Hey, we're glad you guys found your way here today, and we hope you can join us again next week for another Good word.

Justin: Until then, stay blessed by the best. See you guys.